What augmentative options are there in Latin?












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Augmentative, the opposite of diminutive, is a derived word that means greater size or extent.
Diminutives are common and productive in Latin, but how about the opposite?



Some Romance languages have augmentatives similarly to diminutives like the Italian bambino > bambinone.
Although such augmentative suffixes are found in Romance languages, I am not aware of them in Latin.
Many languages I know use prefixes (e.g. "supermarket"), but that does not feel like classical Latin to me.



Is there a way to do augmentative derivations in classical Latin?
If not, how about later forms of Latin?
Any partial insights are welcome, as I appear to be all out of ideas.










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  • Judith Slaying Holofernes (Artemisia Gentileschi, Naples) shows neither Judith nor Artemisia growing more gentle.

    – Hugh
    Dec 31 '18 at 21:26











  • The fact that (at least) Spanish and Italian share the augmentative suffix -on(e)- suggests that it could have that sense in Vulgar Latin.

    – Colin Fine
    Jan 1 at 15:08











  • @ColinFine Indeed, there is strong indirect evidence of that. But how does one actually use that suffix and is it attested at all?

    – Joonas Ilmavirta
    Jan 1 at 20:21











  • @JoonasIlmavirta: Wiktionary -o says "suffixed to nouns, forms cognomina and, in post-Classical Latin, nicknames and equivalent designations."

    – Colin Fine
    Jan 1 at 21:07
















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Augmentative, the opposite of diminutive, is a derived word that means greater size or extent.
Diminutives are common and productive in Latin, but how about the opposite?



Some Romance languages have augmentatives similarly to diminutives like the Italian bambino > bambinone.
Although such augmentative suffixes are found in Romance languages, I am not aware of them in Latin.
Many languages I know use prefixes (e.g. "supermarket"), but that does not feel like classical Latin to me.



Is there a way to do augmentative derivations in classical Latin?
If not, how about later forms of Latin?
Any partial insights are welcome, as I appear to be all out of ideas.










share|improve this question























  • Judith Slaying Holofernes (Artemisia Gentileschi, Naples) shows neither Judith nor Artemisia growing more gentle.

    – Hugh
    Dec 31 '18 at 21:26











  • The fact that (at least) Spanish and Italian share the augmentative suffix -on(e)- suggests that it could have that sense in Vulgar Latin.

    – Colin Fine
    Jan 1 at 15:08











  • @ColinFine Indeed, there is strong indirect evidence of that. But how does one actually use that suffix and is it attested at all?

    – Joonas Ilmavirta
    Jan 1 at 20:21











  • @JoonasIlmavirta: Wiktionary -o says "suffixed to nouns, forms cognomina and, in post-Classical Latin, nicknames and equivalent designations."

    – Colin Fine
    Jan 1 at 21:07














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Augmentative, the opposite of diminutive, is a derived word that means greater size or extent.
Diminutives are common and productive in Latin, but how about the opposite?



Some Romance languages have augmentatives similarly to diminutives like the Italian bambino > bambinone.
Although such augmentative suffixes are found in Romance languages, I am not aware of them in Latin.
Many languages I know use prefixes (e.g. "supermarket"), but that does not feel like classical Latin to me.



Is there a way to do augmentative derivations in classical Latin?
If not, how about later forms of Latin?
Any partial insights are welcome, as I appear to be all out of ideas.










share|improve this question














Augmentative, the opposite of diminutive, is a derived word that means greater size or extent.
Diminutives are common and productive in Latin, but how about the opposite?



Some Romance languages have augmentatives similarly to diminutives like the Italian bambino > bambinone.
Although such augmentative suffixes are found in Romance languages, I am not aware of them in Latin.
Many languages I know use prefixes (e.g. "supermarket"), but that does not feel like classical Latin to me.



Is there a way to do augmentative derivations in classical Latin?
If not, how about later forms of Latin?
Any partial insights are welcome, as I appear to be all out of ideas.







derivation suffixes prefix deminutivus






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  • Judith Slaying Holofernes (Artemisia Gentileschi, Naples) shows neither Judith nor Artemisia growing more gentle.

    – Hugh
    Dec 31 '18 at 21:26











  • The fact that (at least) Spanish and Italian share the augmentative suffix -on(e)- suggests that it could have that sense in Vulgar Latin.

    – Colin Fine
    Jan 1 at 15:08











  • @ColinFine Indeed, there is strong indirect evidence of that. But how does one actually use that suffix and is it attested at all?

    – Joonas Ilmavirta
    Jan 1 at 20:21











  • @JoonasIlmavirta: Wiktionary -o says "suffixed to nouns, forms cognomina and, in post-Classical Latin, nicknames and equivalent designations."

    – Colin Fine
    Jan 1 at 21:07



















  • Judith Slaying Holofernes (Artemisia Gentileschi, Naples) shows neither Judith nor Artemisia growing more gentle.

    – Hugh
    Dec 31 '18 at 21:26











  • The fact that (at least) Spanish and Italian share the augmentative suffix -on(e)- suggests that it could have that sense in Vulgar Latin.

    – Colin Fine
    Jan 1 at 15:08











  • @ColinFine Indeed, there is strong indirect evidence of that. But how does one actually use that suffix and is it attested at all?

    – Joonas Ilmavirta
    Jan 1 at 20:21











  • @JoonasIlmavirta: Wiktionary -o says "suffixed to nouns, forms cognomina and, in post-Classical Latin, nicknames and equivalent designations."

    – Colin Fine
    Jan 1 at 21:07

















Judith Slaying Holofernes (Artemisia Gentileschi, Naples) shows neither Judith nor Artemisia growing more gentle.

– Hugh
Dec 31 '18 at 21:26





Judith Slaying Holofernes (Artemisia Gentileschi, Naples) shows neither Judith nor Artemisia growing more gentle.

– Hugh
Dec 31 '18 at 21:26













The fact that (at least) Spanish and Italian share the augmentative suffix -on(e)- suggests that it could have that sense in Vulgar Latin.

– Colin Fine
Jan 1 at 15:08





The fact that (at least) Spanish and Italian share the augmentative suffix -on(e)- suggests that it could have that sense in Vulgar Latin.

– Colin Fine
Jan 1 at 15:08













@ColinFine Indeed, there is strong indirect evidence of that. But how does one actually use that suffix and is it attested at all?

– Joonas Ilmavirta
Jan 1 at 20:21





@ColinFine Indeed, there is strong indirect evidence of that. But how does one actually use that suffix and is it attested at all?

– Joonas Ilmavirta
Jan 1 at 20:21













@JoonasIlmavirta: Wiktionary -o says "suffixed to nouns, forms cognomina and, in post-Classical Latin, nicknames and equivalent designations."

– Colin Fine
Jan 1 at 21:07





@JoonasIlmavirta: Wiktionary -o says "suffixed to nouns, forms cognomina and, in post-Classical Latin, nicknames and equivalent designations."

– Colin Fine
Jan 1 at 21:07










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Augmentatives seem to me far less clear-cut than the diminutives:



.a. Obviously the comparatives and superlatives, -ior and -issimus.



.b. -osus for example formicosus – full of ants.



.c. Some of the inceptives seem to carry augmentative meaning:
děhisco, -hivi, (inf dehisse) gape, yawn.
fortesco -beome braver

possibly also obliviscor grow more oblivious (Happy New Year)






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    Augmentatives seem to me far less clear-cut than the diminutives:



    .a. Obviously the comparatives and superlatives, -ior and -issimus.



    .b. -osus for example formicosus – full of ants.



    .c. Some of the inceptives seem to carry augmentative meaning:
    děhisco, -hivi, (inf dehisse) gape, yawn.
    fortesco -beome braver

    possibly also obliviscor grow more oblivious (Happy New Year)






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      Augmentatives seem to me far less clear-cut than the diminutives:



      .a. Obviously the comparatives and superlatives, -ior and -issimus.



      .b. -osus for example formicosus – full of ants.



      .c. Some of the inceptives seem to carry augmentative meaning:
      děhisco, -hivi, (inf dehisse) gape, yawn.
      fortesco -beome braver

      possibly also obliviscor grow more oblivious (Happy New Year)






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        Augmentatives seem to me far less clear-cut than the diminutives:



        .a. Obviously the comparatives and superlatives, -ior and -issimus.



        .b. -osus for example formicosus – full of ants.



        .c. Some of the inceptives seem to carry augmentative meaning:
        děhisco, -hivi, (inf dehisse) gape, yawn.
        fortesco -beome braver

        possibly also obliviscor grow more oblivious (Happy New Year)






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        Augmentatives seem to me far less clear-cut than the diminutives:



        .a. Obviously the comparatives and superlatives, -ior and -issimus.



        .b. -osus for example formicosus – full of ants.



        .c. Some of the inceptives seem to carry augmentative meaning:
        děhisco, -hivi, (inf dehisse) gape, yawn.
        fortesco -beome braver

        possibly also obliviscor grow more oblivious (Happy New Year)







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