For a utilitarian, is a lie morally equivalent to a mistake?

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As far as I know, utilitarians consider that only the consequences should be considered as the calculation of the morality of an action.



Since a mistake and a lie differ only in their intent, are they equivalent according to this philosophy?










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      As far as I know, utilitarians consider that only the consequences should be considered as the calculation of the morality of an action.



      Since a mistake and a lie differ only in their intent, are they equivalent according to this philosophy?










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      As far as I know, utilitarians consider that only the consequences should be considered as the calculation of the morality of an action.



      Since a mistake and a lie differ only in their intent, are they equivalent according to this philosophy?







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          The evaluation of such a thing looks different under different utilitarian approaches.



          Act utilitarianism




          Act utilitarianism is a utilitarian theory of ethics which states that a person's act is morally right if and only if it produces the best possible results in that specific situation.




          Source: Wikipedia



          So the first thing that's important to understand is that under this approach an act utilitarian will consider certain lies - those that result in more happiness than not saying the lie - morally a good thing.



          An example of this would be:




          Thomas has stolen a thousand dollar from his millionaire friend. His friend asks "You are my friend, I trust you 100%, did you steal that money?". Thomas - an act utilitarian - confidently answers he did not, as telling the truth would make both him and his friend unhappy.




          This brings up back to your original question where a lie can be morally good or bad in the same way a mistake can be.



          Rule utilitarianism




          Rule utilitarianism is a form of utilitarianism that says an action is right as it conforms to a rule that leads to the greatest good, or that "the rightness or wrongness of a particular action is a function of the correctness of the rule of which it is an instance".




          Source: Wikipedia



          Under this philosophical approach the main question is about how the rules are defined. It's easily conceivable that a rule utilitarian would thus take the approach that "on average" the long term effect of lies makes people unhappy, and thus lies - as a rule - are morally wrong.



          Obviously in that case there is a strong distinction between a lie and a mistake as rules are considered an abstraction which ...




          Rule utilitarians argue that following rules that tend to lead to the greatest good will have better consequences overall than allowing exceptions to be made in individual instances, even if better consequences can be demonstrated in those instances




          Source: Wikipedia





          And beyond those two there are of course countless of other variants of utilitarianism, so read up on those as well.






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            Great answer. I would add that I've also seen hybrid approaches that value both rules and acts. So a person may say that based off of Rule Utilitarianism a lie does harm and is thus is generally wrong, but a sufficiently high anticipate good from the lie (a la act utilitarianism) may be enough to outweigh the harm of breaking the rule.. So for example they may deem a white lie to be wrong due to it's breaking the rule on lying for only a minor increase in happiness, but lying to a assassin to help his intended victim to hide is moral, since it does enough good to justify breaking the rule.
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          • I don't think the example of Act Utilitarianism that you used is strong enough... the assumption is that the only consequences of Thomas' conversation with his friend are whether or not Thomas has the $1000 (having = good) and whether or not the millionaire is angry at Thomas (angry = bad). But having and anger are not defined by act utilitarianism to be good or bad. This works more as an example of moral socialism than as act utilitarianism, I think.
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          Since utilitarianism is meant for people who are not all-knowing, only the foreseeable consequences count. And a mistake and a lie do not differ only in intent, they also differ in what the person knows, and, therefore, can foresee.






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            They also differ in the consequences to the person saying something, in that that person has the experience of having lied or of having told the truth as understood. One problem I've seen sometimes in utilitarian analysis is in omitting some class or classes of consequences, such as (in this case) the internal ones.
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          The definition of "lie" and "mistake" differ only in their intent, but that does not mean that the set of lies differs from the set of mistakes only in their intent. Given a particular lie, and a particular mistake, it would fallacious to say: "This lie is no worse than this mistake, because the lie differs only in its intent". Lies tend to be worse than mistakes. At the very least, a lie results in a person knowing that they lied, while a mistake does not. Lies are also more likely to result in another person coming to believe that they were lied to.



          Furthermore, morality refers to a criterion by which we decide between courses of action. If we know that something is a lie, then it (generally) follows that we should not do it. If we do not know that something is a mistake, then we will not consider the morality of performing mistakes when deciding whether to do it, so our moral judgment of mistakes is irrelevant. And knowing it is a mistake is incoherent: if we know that it is wrong, then it's not a mistake; it's a lie. If a claim is false, then we will consider the claim being false in our decision whether to make the claim only when we know that the claim is false. "Being a mistake" is not an attribute for which it is coherent to include in one's decision-making (although of course "likely to be a mistake" is).






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          • @PedroA: Note that you can suggest corrections to such obvious mistakes yourself, which is more efficient that leaving a comment (and also gives you reputation).
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          Depends on what you mean by "moral equivalence". If you mean that the consequences are equivalent, then yes, they are the same, but this is independent of utilitarianism. If you mean "both are bad", then they are not equivalent -- to an actor with imperfect information, what in hindsight is shown to be a mistake may have been a perfectly rational, ethical decision when it was made with the information then available to the actor.






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            The evaluation of such a thing looks different under different utilitarian approaches.



            Act utilitarianism




            Act utilitarianism is a utilitarian theory of ethics which states that a person's act is morally right if and only if it produces the best possible results in that specific situation.




            Source: Wikipedia



            So the first thing that's important to understand is that under this approach an act utilitarian will consider certain lies - those that result in more happiness than not saying the lie - morally a good thing.



            An example of this would be:




            Thomas has stolen a thousand dollar from his millionaire friend. His friend asks "You are my friend, I trust you 100%, did you steal that money?". Thomas - an act utilitarian - confidently answers he did not, as telling the truth would make both him and his friend unhappy.




            This brings up back to your original question where a lie can be morally good or bad in the same way a mistake can be.



            Rule utilitarianism




            Rule utilitarianism is a form of utilitarianism that says an action is right as it conforms to a rule that leads to the greatest good, or that "the rightness or wrongness of a particular action is a function of the correctness of the rule of which it is an instance".




            Source: Wikipedia



            Under this philosophical approach the main question is about how the rules are defined. It's easily conceivable that a rule utilitarian would thus take the approach that "on average" the long term effect of lies makes people unhappy, and thus lies - as a rule - are morally wrong.



            Obviously in that case there is a strong distinction between a lie and a mistake as rules are considered an abstraction which ...




            Rule utilitarians argue that following rules that tend to lead to the greatest good will have better consequences overall than allowing exceptions to be made in individual instances, even if better consequences can be demonstrated in those instances




            Source: Wikipedia





            And beyond those two there are of course countless of other variants of utilitarianism, so read up on those as well.






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              Great answer. I would add that I've also seen hybrid approaches that value both rules and acts. So a person may say that based off of Rule Utilitarianism a lie does harm and is thus is generally wrong, but a sufficiently high anticipate good from the lie (a la act utilitarianism) may be enough to outweigh the harm of breaking the rule.. So for example they may deem a white lie to be wrong due to it's breaking the rule on lying for only a minor increase in happiness, but lying to a assassin to help his intended victim to hide is moral, since it does enough good to justify breaking the rule.
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            • I don't think the example of Act Utilitarianism that you used is strong enough... the assumption is that the only consequences of Thomas' conversation with his friend are whether or not Thomas has the $1000 (having = good) and whether or not the millionaire is angry at Thomas (angry = bad). But having and anger are not defined by act utilitarianism to be good or bad. This works more as an example of moral socialism than as act utilitarianism, I think.
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            The evaluation of such a thing looks different under different utilitarian approaches.



            Act utilitarianism




            Act utilitarianism is a utilitarian theory of ethics which states that a person's act is morally right if and only if it produces the best possible results in that specific situation.




            Source: Wikipedia



            So the first thing that's important to understand is that under this approach an act utilitarian will consider certain lies - those that result in more happiness than not saying the lie - morally a good thing.



            An example of this would be:




            Thomas has stolen a thousand dollar from his millionaire friend. His friend asks "You are my friend, I trust you 100%, did you steal that money?". Thomas - an act utilitarian - confidently answers he did not, as telling the truth would make both him and his friend unhappy.




            This brings up back to your original question where a lie can be morally good or bad in the same way a mistake can be.



            Rule utilitarianism




            Rule utilitarianism is a form of utilitarianism that says an action is right as it conforms to a rule that leads to the greatest good, or that "the rightness or wrongness of a particular action is a function of the correctness of the rule of which it is an instance".




            Source: Wikipedia



            Under this philosophical approach the main question is about how the rules are defined. It's easily conceivable that a rule utilitarian would thus take the approach that "on average" the long term effect of lies makes people unhappy, and thus lies - as a rule - are morally wrong.



            Obviously in that case there is a strong distinction between a lie and a mistake as rules are considered an abstraction which ...




            Rule utilitarians argue that following rules that tend to lead to the greatest good will have better consequences overall than allowing exceptions to be made in individual instances, even if better consequences can be demonstrated in those instances




            Source: Wikipedia





            And beyond those two there are of course countless of other variants of utilitarianism, so read up on those as well.






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              Great answer. I would add that I've also seen hybrid approaches that value both rules and acts. So a person may say that based off of Rule Utilitarianism a lie does harm and is thus is generally wrong, but a sufficiently high anticipate good from the lie (a la act utilitarianism) may be enough to outweigh the harm of breaking the rule.. So for example they may deem a white lie to be wrong due to it's breaking the rule on lying for only a minor increase in happiness, but lying to a assassin to help his intended victim to hide is moral, since it does enough good to justify breaking the rule.
              – dsollen
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            • I don't think the example of Act Utilitarianism that you used is strong enough... the assumption is that the only consequences of Thomas' conversation with his friend are whether or not Thomas has the $1000 (having = good) and whether or not the millionaire is angry at Thomas (angry = bad). But having and anger are not defined by act utilitarianism to be good or bad. This works more as an example of moral socialism than as act utilitarianism, I think.
              – elliot svensson
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            The evaluation of such a thing looks different under different utilitarian approaches.



            Act utilitarianism




            Act utilitarianism is a utilitarian theory of ethics which states that a person's act is morally right if and only if it produces the best possible results in that specific situation.




            Source: Wikipedia



            So the first thing that's important to understand is that under this approach an act utilitarian will consider certain lies - those that result in more happiness than not saying the lie - morally a good thing.



            An example of this would be:




            Thomas has stolen a thousand dollar from his millionaire friend. His friend asks "You are my friend, I trust you 100%, did you steal that money?". Thomas - an act utilitarian - confidently answers he did not, as telling the truth would make both him and his friend unhappy.




            This brings up back to your original question where a lie can be morally good or bad in the same way a mistake can be.



            Rule utilitarianism




            Rule utilitarianism is a form of utilitarianism that says an action is right as it conforms to a rule that leads to the greatest good, or that "the rightness or wrongness of a particular action is a function of the correctness of the rule of which it is an instance".




            Source: Wikipedia



            Under this philosophical approach the main question is about how the rules are defined. It's easily conceivable that a rule utilitarian would thus take the approach that "on average" the long term effect of lies makes people unhappy, and thus lies - as a rule - are morally wrong.



            Obviously in that case there is a strong distinction between a lie and a mistake as rules are considered an abstraction which ...




            Rule utilitarians argue that following rules that tend to lead to the greatest good will have better consequences overall than allowing exceptions to be made in individual instances, even if better consequences can be demonstrated in those instances




            Source: Wikipedia





            And beyond those two there are of course countless of other variants of utilitarianism, so read up on those as well.






            share|improve this answer














            The evaluation of such a thing looks different under different utilitarian approaches.



            Act utilitarianism




            Act utilitarianism is a utilitarian theory of ethics which states that a person's act is morally right if and only if it produces the best possible results in that specific situation.




            Source: Wikipedia



            So the first thing that's important to understand is that under this approach an act utilitarian will consider certain lies - those that result in more happiness than not saying the lie - morally a good thing.



            An example of this would be:




            Thomas has stolen a thousand dollar from his millionaire friend. His friend asks "You are my friend, I trust you 100%, did you steal that money?". Thomas - an act utilitarian - confidently answers he did not, as telling the truth would make both him and his friend unhappy.




            This brings up back to your original question where a lie can be morally good or bad in the same way a mistake can be.



            Rule utilitarianism




            Rule utilitarianism is a form of utilitarianism that says an action is right as it conforms to a rule that leads to the greatest good, or that "the rightness or wrongness of a particular action is a function of the correctness of the rule of which it is an instance".




            Source: Wikipedia



            Under this philosophical approach the main question is about how the rules are defined. It's easily conceivable that a rule utilitarian would thus take the approach that "on average" the long term effect of lies makes people unhappy, and thus lies - as a rule - are morally wrong.



            Obviously in that case there is a strong distinction between a lie and a mistake as rules are considered an abstraction which ...




            Rule utilitarians argue that following rules that tend to lead to the greatest good will have better consequences overall than allowing exceptions to be made in individual instances, even if better consequences can be demonstrated in those instances




            Source: Wikipedia





            And beyond those two there are of course countless of other variants of utilitarianism, so read up on those as well.







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              Great answer. I would add that I've also seen hybrid approaches that value both rules and acts. So a person may say that based off of Rule Utilitarianism a lie does harm and is thus is generally wrong, but a sufficiently high anticipate good from the lie (a la act utilitarianism) may be enough to outweigh the harm of breaking the rule.. So for example they may deem a white lie to be wrong due to it's breaking the rule on lying for only a minor increase in happiness, but lying to a assassin to help his intended victim to hide is moral, since it does enough good to justify breaking the rule.
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            • I don't think the example of Act Utilitarianism that you used is strong enough... the assumption is that the only consequences of Thomas' conversation with his friend are whether or not Thomas has the $1000 (having = good) and whether or not the millionaire is angry at Thomas (angry = bad). But having and anger are not defined by act utilitarianism to be good or bad. This works more as an example of moral socialism than as act utilitarianism, I think.
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              Great answer. I would add that I've also seen hybrid approaches that value both rules and acts. So a person may say that based off of Rule Utilitarianism a lie does harm and is thus is generally wrong, but a sufficiently high anticipate good from the lie (a la act utilitarianism) may be enough to outweigh the harm of breaking the rule.. So for example they may deem a white lie to be wrong due to it's breaking the rule on lying for only a minor increase in happiness, but lying to a assassin to help his intended victim to hide is moral, since it does enough good to justify breaking the rule.
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            • I don't think the example of Act Utilitarianism that you used is strong enough... the assumption is that the only consequences of Thomas' conversation with his friend are whether or not Thomas has the $1000 (having = good) and whether or not the millionaire is angry at Thomas (angry = bad). But having and anger are not defined by act utilitarianism to be good or bad. This works more as an example of moral socialism than as act utilitarianism, I think.
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            Great answer. I would add that I've also seen hybrid approaches that value both rules and acts. So a person may say that based off of Rule Utilitarianism a lie does harm and is thus is generally wrong, but a sufficiently high anticipate good from the lie (a la act utilitarianism) may be enough to outweigh the harm of breaking the rule.. So for example they may deem a white lie to be wrong due to it's breaking the rule on lying for only a minor increase in happiness, but lying to a assassin to help his intended victim to hide is moral, since it does enough good to justify breaking the rule.
            – dsollen
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            Great answer. I would add that I've also seen hybrid approaches that value both rules and acts. So a person may say that based off of Rule Utilitarianism a lie does harm and is thus is generally wrong, but a sufficiently high anticipate good from the lie (a la act utilitarianism) may be enough to outweigh the harm of breaking the rule.. So for example they may deem a white lie to be wrong due to it's breaking the rule on lying for only a minor increase in happiness, but lying to a assassin to help his intended victim to hide is moral, since it does enough good to justify breaking the rule.
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            I don't think the example of Act Utilitarianism that you used is strong enough... the assumption is that the only consequences of Thomas' conversation with his friend are whether or not Thomas has the $1000 (having = good) and whether or not the millionaire is angry at Thomas (angry = bad). But having and anger are not defined by act utilitarianism to be good or bad. This works more as an example of moral socialism than as act utilitarianism, I think.
            – elliot svensson
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            I don't think the example of Act Utilitarianism that you used is strong enough... the assumption is that the only consequences of Thomas' conversation with his friend are whether or not Thomas has the $1000 (having = good) and whether or not the millionaire is angry at Thomas (angry = bad). But having and anger are not defined by act utilitarianism to be good or bad. This works more as an example of moral socialism than as act utilitarianism, I think.
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            Since utilitarianism is meant for people who are not all-knowing, only the foreseeable consequences count. And a mistake and a lie do not differ only in intent, they also differ in what the person knows, and, therefore, can foresee.






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              They also differ in the consequences to the person saying something, in that that person has the experience of having lied or of having told the truth as understood. One problem I've seen sometimes in utilitarian analysis is in omitting some class or classes of consequences, such as (in this case) the internal ones.
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            Since utilitarianism is meant for people who are not all-knowing, only the foreseeable consequences count. And a mistake and a lie do not differ only in intent, they also differ in what the person knows, and, therefore, can foresee.






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              They also differ in the consequences to the person saying something, in that that person has the experience of having lied or of having told the truth as understood. One problem I've seen sometimes in utilitarian analysis is in omitting some class or classes of consequences, such as (in this case) the internal ones.
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            Since utilitarianism is meant for people who are not all-knowing, only the foreseeable consequences count. And a mistake and a lie do not differ only in intent, they also differ in what the person knows, and, therefore, can foresee.






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            Since utilitarianism is meant for people who are not all-knowing, only the foreseeable consequences count. And a mistake and a lie do not differ only in intent, they also differ in what the person knows, and, therefore, can foresee.







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              They also differ in the consequences to the person saying something, in that that person has the experience of having lied or of having told the truth as understood. One problem I've seen sometimes in utilitarian analysis is in omitting some class or classes of consequences, such as (in this case) the internal ones.
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              They also differ in the consequences to the person saying something, in that that person has the experience of having lied or of having told the truth as understood. One problem I've seen sometimes in utilitarian analysis is in omitting some class or classes of consequences, such as (in this case) the internal ones.
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            They also differ in the consequences to the person saying something, in that that person has the experience of having lied or of having told the truth as understood. One problem I've seen sometimes in utilitarian analysis is in omitting some class or classes of consequences, such as (in this case) the internal ones.
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            They also differ in the consequences to the person saying something, in that that person has the experience of having lied or of having told the truth as understood. One problem I've seen sometimes in utilitarian analysis is in omitting some class or classes of consequences, such as (in this case) the internal ones.
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            The definition of "lie" and "mistake" differ only in their intent, but that does not mean that the set of lies differs from the set of mistakes only in their intent. Given a particular lie, and a particular mistake, it would fallacious to say: "This lie is no worse than this mistake, because the lie differs only in its intent". Lies tend to be worse than mistakes. At the very least, a lie results in a person knowing that they lied, while a mistake does not. Lies are also more likely to result in another person coming to believe that they were lied to.



            Furthermore, morality refers to a criterion by which we decide between courses of action. If we know that something is a lie, then it (generally) follows that we should not do it. If we do not know that something is a mistake, then we will not consider the morality of performing mistakes when deciding whether to do it, so our moral judgment of mistakes is irrelevant. And knowing it is a mistake is incoherent: if we know that it is wrong, then it's not a mistake; it's a lie. If a claim is false, then we will consider the claim being false in our decision whether to make the claim only when we know that the claim is false. "Being a mistake" is not an attribute for which it is coherent to include in one's decision-making (although of course "likely to be a mistake" is).






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            The definition of "lie" and "mistake" differ only in their intent, but that does not mean that the set of lies differs from the set of mistakes only in their intent. Given a particular lie, and a particular mistake, it would fallacious to say: "This lie is no worse than this mistake, because the lie differs only in its intent". Lies tend to be worse than mistakes. At the very least, a lie results in a person knowing that they lied, while a mistake does not. Lies are also more likely to result in another person coming to believe that they were lied to.



            Furthermore, morality refers to a criterion by which we decide between courses of action. If we know that something is a lie, then it (generally) follows that we should not do it. If we do not know that something is a mistake, then we will not consider the morality of performing mistakes when deciding whether to do it, so our moral judgment of mistakes is irrelevant. And knowing it is a mistake is incoherent: if we know that it is wrong, then it's not a mistake; it's a lie. If a claim is false, then we will consider the claim being false in our decision whether to make the claim only when we know that the claim is false. "Being a mistake" is not an attribute for which it is coherent to include in one's decision-making (although of course "likely to be a mistake" is).






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            The definition of "lie" and "mistake" differ only in their intent, but that does not mean that the set of lies differs from the set of mistakes only in their intent. Given a particular lie, and a particular mistake, it would fallacious to say: "This lie is no worse than this mistake, because the lie differs only in its intent". Lies tend to be worse than mistakes. At the very least, a lie results in a person knowing that they lied, while a mistake does not. Lies are also more likely to result in another person coming to believe that they were lied to.



            Furthermore, morality refers to a criterion by which we decide between courses of action. If we know that something is a lie, then it (generally) follows that we should not do it. If we do not know that something is a mistake, then we will not consider the morality of performing mistakes when deciding whether to do it, so our moral judgment of mistakes is irrelevant. And knowing it is a mistake is incoherent: if we know that it is wrong, then it's not a mistake; it's a lie. If a claim is false, then we will consider the claim being false in our decision whether to make the claim only when we know that the claim is false. "Being a mistake" is not an attribute for which it is coherent to include in one's decision-making (although of course "likely to be a mistake" is).






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            The definition of "lie" and "mistake" differ only in their intent, but that does not mean that the set of lies differs from the set of mistakes only in their intent. Given a particular lie, and a particular mistake, it would fallacious to say: "This lie is no worse than this mistake, because the lie differs only in its intent". Lies tend to be worse than mistakes. At the very least, a lie results in a person knowing that they lied, while a mistake does not. Lies are also more likely to result in another person coming to believe that they were lied to.



            Furthermore, morality refers to a criterion by which we decide between courses of action. If we know that something is a lie, then it (generally) follows that we should not do it. If we do not know that something is a mistake, then we will not consider the morality of performing mistakes when deciding whether to do it, so our moral judgment of mistakes is irrelevant. And knowing it is a mistake is incoherent: if we know that it is wrong, then it's not a mistake; it's a lie. If a claim is false, then we will consider the claim being false in our decision whether to make the claim only when we know that the claim is false. "Being a mistake" is not an attribute for which it is coherent to include in one's decision-making (although of course "likely to be a mistake" is).







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            Depends on what you mean by "moral equivalence". If you mean that the consequences are equivalent, then yes, they are the same, but this is independent of utilitarianism. If you mean "both are bad", then they are not equivalent -- to an actor with imperfect information, what in hindsight is shown to be a mistake may have been a perfectly rational, ethical decision when it was made with the information then available to the actor.






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              Depends on what you mean by "moral equivalence". If you mean that the consequences are equivalent, then yes, they are the same, but this is independent of utilitarianism. If you mean "both are bad", then they are not equivalent -- to an actor with imperfect information, what in hindsight is shown to be a mistake may have been a perfectly rational, ethical decision when it was made with the information then available to the actor.






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                Depends on what you mean by "moral equivalence". If you mean that the consequences are equivalent, then yes, they are the same, but this is independent of utilitarianism. If you mean "both are bad", then they are not equivalent -- to an actor with imperfect information, what in hindsight is shown to be a mistake may have been a perfectly rational, ethical decision when it was made with the information then available to the actor.






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                Depends on what you mean by "moral equivalence". If you mean that the consequences are equivalent, then yes, they are the same, but this is independent of utilitarianism. If you mean "both are bad", then they are not equivalent -- to an actor with imperfect information, what in hindsight is shown to be a mistake may have been a perfectly rational, ethical decision when it was made with the information then available to the actor.







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